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#1 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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i wish pokies never exsisted, because i wouldnt of been lieing to my mum girlfriend, friends, every one really, they dont understand my addiction ive gone through and i try not to think about it to much but it seems thats when it happens when i think and i go venture out to play the pokies not a 1 dollar bet all the way, 10 dollars a spin and i hope to win big not a fat chance im starting to gather that??? im just a feeling very low and sad that i have caused all these problems in everyones lifes, i sometimes feel like a burdon. I would like some feedback on any topic regarding pokies regarding your experiences if any one has any(im shore there is )you dont understand if you havent gone to the pokies and have had a somewhat addiction i put it lol.hope to here back from sombody????? gotta go seeya all take care clint
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#2 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Hi clint

A small suggestion - maybe you should try giving the helpline a call on 080065465.

Unfortunately pokies DO exist, and they aren't necessarily going to all disappear. True, most of the people on this site have lied to friends and famly, others have stolen, or racked up massive debts.

Take care and keep coming back to this site.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Dear Clint--I agree with Skyman --call the 0800 654 655 number if your in NZ, if not check your local phone book for Gamblers Help or Gamblers Anonymous.

The poker machines are always going to be with us, we can't change this, it's just pure fact (I /you and who ever has no control over this now do we). What I/you or who ever can do is make sure that we don't play them, now that is something we can control, this needs to be your only focus for today, doing someting you can control. Talk to freinds and family, tell them whats going on in your life, in other words if you want to help yourself stop playing the machines, start for today--JUST FOR TODAY I WILL NOT GAMBLE--you can do this my friend, it's only 24 hours, if thats too long then break it down to JUST FOR THIS ONE HOUR IF NEED BE--letting others know can help, thay can take care of your access to money, thats the biggest trigger of the lot--l start doing some other activities--other interests, involve family and freinds.

If you really want to stop then JUST FOR TODAY SAY I WILL NOT GAMBLE.

YOU CAN DO IT.

keep in touch for on going support.

The Great One
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Thanks guys for your nice comments its very encouraging to hear back from others that are supporting me in some way i just dont want to disscuss this topic with my family because i put them through so much and there still by my side its not like i want to onform them that i have gone through a gambling eposode what issues have you had gambling tell me your story ALSO IM FROM AUSTRALIA I JUST REALISED THAT THIS SITE IS FROM NEWZEALAND but its a top site beter than those ive found in australia thanks again guys
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Hiya Clint

Apparently the gambling hotline in Adelaide is 1800 060 757 or Gamblers anonymous is 08 82126933.

Take care and keep in contact
skyman
#6 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Glorp....Just like you, this site also helps me. With the contrubtions all the others are making I can keep away from the venues.

Thank God I never really got started on online stuff - have looked once or twice, but never played, and never will play.

I'm now on day 25 of being gamble free and love it. The odd urge comes up, but I won't give in to it. My counsellor told me that only 10% of the NZ population gambles, and that only 5% of those become CG's, but I'm wondering if that is in fact true. I've had a recent experience where 4/5 people I was with confessed to 'winning' at pokies, these were people who I thought couldn't possibly be gamblers. Most of my friends and reltions also gamble. I'm finding it pretty hard to find people who don't gamble, so I'm wondering if there are a lot more than the 10% - 5% ratio stated.

I read on one contribution here that while the world's focus is on litigating against the cigarette companies, gambling is going to get its come-uppance one day, and I have to agree. The social cost, the financial cost I'm sure is contrubting to mental health and medical problems just as devastating as smoking. While one causes lung cancer and heart disease, how do we know that gambling is just as big a contributor to these statistics? We don't because nobody's doing the research - or are they?

Hope you are all having a great day. I keep reading the shares and love every one of them. They keep me focussed on my goal of not gambling...
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#7 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Sally

You wrote "10% of the NZ population gambles, and that only 5% of those become CG's". That's based on reported figures, which are also consistent with international details.

Currently, there is research, but it is limited, and one of the foremost experts on CG is based in Auckland. I've had to do a literature review, as I did a research proposal on gambling for my degree, and what I did find was that there is not (in my not so humble opinion) enough research. Then again, it's only recently that problem gambling has been recognised as a Mental Health issue here in NZ.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Dear Sally--I don't know where your counsellor got the information that only 10% of the NZ population Gamble and that only 5 %will be Problem Gamblers--this is way out of line--lets face it over 75% of the NZ population gamble on lotto and scr kiwi weekkly and with scr kiwi daily this gives that figure the boot for a start.

In my experince over 85% of the population gamble in some way or another daily or weekly, of these at least 10% to 20% will already have a problem with gambling and one must remember that to every Problem gambler at 10 to 20 people are also being affected, so once again the figures quoted by your counsellor are way out the window--and lets all remeber that money taken from gambling in this country which is billions 90% of that comes form those with a problem.

I'm no expert , but know these figures are closer to ones quoted by your counselor.

TAKE CARE

The Great One
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#9 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Great One

Hmmm.. Maybe it's the old saying about lies, darned lies and statistics :) Then again, we could probably debate the finer points of statistics until the cows come home (which is kinda hard when you live in an urban area :) ).

The main points, as I see them are
1)that it is a major problem worldwide, 2)not enough research has been done (althought that's being worked on) and 3)that there are people out there who understand what is happening, and are also helping people to overcome their problem.

Have a fantastic day everyone :)
skyman
#10 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Hi The Great One & Skyman,
Sorry, I don't agree with The Great One about the number of people who gamble, I hope you are wrong, because then I would be in the majority and not one of a minority of people who are ADDICTED.

As for myself, why didn't I get addicted to horse-racing or Lotto or Scratchies I will never know. What I do know is that I got addicted to POKIES. And when I've added up all the money spent in the last 3 years on the POKIES compared with what I've spent on Lotto etc MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE it is way out of kilter....

I prefer to think that 10% of the population gamble - that's 400,000,people. If they spend on average $10 per day (all forms of gambling, horses, casino, pokies, lotto, scratchies etc), that's $4million dollars a DAY, multiply that by 365 days that's $1.4 billion per year!!! Add to that the 5% who are CG'S, that's 20,000 x $100 per day, that's $2million per day, multiply that by 365 days thats another $730 million - a total of $2.1 billion per year... which is what I feel might be the case. I prefer to think that way because it gives me hope that I will be able to keep away....

I have a problem, a serious problem and I don't want to minimise it by thinking that everyone is gambling to the extent that I have.

Thanks for the share though - interesting debate, lies, lies, and damn statistics - to quote Skyman!
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#11 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Hi Sally

Hate to tell you this.. but it's more than $2.1 billion on year.. think more than $10 billion a year, according to what I've read (and that's supposed to be a CONSERVATIVE figure, doesn't include housie and so on).

As always, am prepared to stand corrected on it, but will also go and seek verification from the research I did earlier this year.

Lot of money and it's got a major impact on life here in NZ.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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According to the Centre for Gambling Studies:

<I>Gambling has expanded rapidly in New Zealand during the last 13 years. Gross annual turnover has increased from $1.5 billion in 1989 to $11.6 billion in 2002; the amount of money lost by gamblers in 2002 was $1.7 billion. The amounts gambled and lost are increasing at between 10 and 20% each year. The turnover in 2002 was a 14% increase over 2001.</I>

Will try and get some more recent stats posted later..
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#13 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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The Great One/Skyman,

Wow, I'm completely blown away by those stats.

Well I have to backtrack and now say I agree with TGO, because its all there in black and white. But, how depressing. Its obviously too much money for government to consider banning gaming machines altogether.

I'm now almost a month gamble free and I still haven't given in to the odd craving. I think that instead of comparing myself to the rest of the country I should just concentrate on my problem and deal with that.

Would love to see more of the stats though.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Sally

Well done on almost a month :) and you get there one day at a time.

Haven't been able to find any stats for last year.. will keep searching
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#15 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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thanks guys and girls for using my site i started its great to see that there is hope out there gambling doesnt have to be a secret what us gamblers or recovered ones because we can speak on hear and we get heard
I find my gambling problem hard to discuss with close relatives or friends because they dont understand and i dont want to hurt them like i have dont once before i hope every one here is all well and at least have a small smile on your faces.
gambling is such a wide spread problem because it ruins not only yourself but more importantly it really does affect others that care about you i have learned to avoid gambling all together its all about your emotional wellbeing or the way you think
we all want money but honestly is it really worth the pain only hoping you may get a payout my experience is the more you go looking for the lost fortunes you have put in the worse of you will be
I only wish i never had the chance to gamble like all of us here thats how it started RIGHT hope you are all well take care of one another and be strong i believe in you all YOU CAN OVER COME THE ADDICTION just have confidence in your selfs CLINT
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#16 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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it would be great if somebody replyed back to me on my site i created because it was all about helping one another and to encourage all who has difficultys and some stage or just want a chat i once again tryed the gambling career up again for a day without going for a year nearly and lost $1900 whayt a waste again i thought i could win big not a chance i was bored thats the trigger for me i think but it was a relapse again the stupid machines are very bad they make people like us waste hard saved money sad thing was i was self excluded also the venues dont care about use with problems they care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ of course why exclude yourself if only they alow you to play the machines VERY SAD AND ANGRY INDEED hope somebody replys back with thier life status what your up to know
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#17 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Hi Clint. I know that horrible feeling after a big loss. I used to bang my desk with my fists in rage and run outside. I too had a recent slip-up. It certainly doesn't feel good. Boredom is just one of the many triggers for me - I have lots! Just remember that you just have to get up and dust off. Remember, you're not alone here. We've all had those scary, losing moments, but we all know better not to go back again. I too agree with you there about the casinos caring only for your money. Don't give any more to them. Save it away or buy something good for yourself instead.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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HELLO OUT THERE! IS THIS A CHAT ROOM OR HOW DOES THIS WORK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU NEED TO TALK EVERYDAY?
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#19 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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Hi Trying,

This is a chat room, sort of. It's way delayed though.

Don't expect to post and get a rapid response. Maybe the next day. There's major time differences, depending on where you're from (I'm in FL).

People are nice though. And there is therapy to be had by reading previous posts. You quickly find out that you are not the lone ranger in this gambling issues thing.

Take care.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:15:00 a.m.(UTC)
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hi trying again--Not very often I disagree with a posting but nomorepoker is way off beam--this is a great chat line, and you will get a posting return every day--no delay--don't know what nmp really means--any way keep sharing.

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